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Pathfinder is Payload’s flagship podcast covering the booming business and pressing policy matters of space. We sit down weekly with the top shot-callers in space to keep you informed, entertained, and up-to date on the top news and trends beyond Earth. In this ~1 hour, talk show-style podcast, Pathfinder host Mo Islam interviews astronauts, administrators, founders, CEOs, military minds, policymakers, and more.

Strategic Nuclear Energy, with Jordan Bramble (CEO of Antares)

Strategic Nuclear Energy, with Jordan Bramble (CEO of Antares)

In the wake of new executive orders elevating nuclear energy as a national security priority, there’s growing momentum—and urgency—behind advanced fission technologies. Few are better positioned to talk about this…

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The Future of Supersonic, with Blake Scholl (CEO of Boom Supersonic)

The Future of Supersonic, with Blake Scholl (CEO of Boom Supersonic)

In a major shift, the U.S. government is moving to overturn a 50-year ban on civilian supersonic flight over land—a regulation that’s defined the boundaries of commercial aviation since 1973.…

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Space Superiority, with Even Rogers (CEO of True Anomaly)

Space Superiority, with Even Rogers (CEO of True Anomaly)

If the next great war is fought in space, Even Rogers wants the U.S. to be ready. On this episode of Valley of Depth, the True Anomaly CEO and former…

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Asymmetric Naval Power, with Paul Lwin (CEO of HavocAI)

Asymmetric Naval Power, with Paul Lwin (CEO of HavocAI)

This week on Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Paul Lwin, co-founder and CEO of Havoc AI—a builder of integrated hardware, software, and logistics that enables collaborative, autonomous maritime operations.…

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Redefining Air Mobility, with Marc Allen (CEO of Electra)

Redefining Air Mobility, with Marc Allen (CEO of Electra)

This week on Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Marc Allen, CEO of Electra and former Chief Strategy Officer at Boeing. After nearly two decades at one of aerospace’s most…

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The Next Supercycle, with Erik Kriessmann (Partner at Altimeter)

The Next Supercycle, with Erik Kriessmann (Partner at Altimeter)

This week on Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Erik Kriessmann, Partner at Altimeter – the $10B crossover firm known for backing generational companies across tech, defense, and space. From…

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Engineered for Impact, with Christian Garcia (Partner at Breakthrough Energy Ventures)

Engineered for Impact, with Christian Garcia (Partner at Breakthrough Energy Ventures)

This week on Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Christian Garcia, Partner at Breakthrough Energy Ventures — the Bill Gates-backed climate fund investing in bold technologies to accelerate the energy…

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Breakthrough Orbital Platforms, with Tejpaul Bhatia (CEO of Axiom Space)

Breakthrough Orbital Platforms, with Tejpaul Bhatia (CEO of Axiom Space)

This week on Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Tejpaul Bhatia, the newly appointed CEO of Axiom Space — a company building one of the first commercial space stations and…

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Hypersonic Power Play, with Bryon Hargis (CEO of Castelion)

Hypersonic Power Play, with Bryon Hargis (CEO of Castelion)

We’re excited to launch Valley of Depth, our new podcast taking the place of our beloved (formerly known as) Pathfinder (RIP) podcast. Valley of Depth is about the technologies that matter—and…

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Beyond the Brief, with Ed Fyfe (Founder of Ed Fyfe Design)

Beyond the Brief, with Ed Fyfe (Founder of Ed Fyfe Design)

This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Ed Fyfe, founder of Ed Fyfe Design, a creative studio focused on branding and visual identity for space and hardware companies. With a…

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Inside SpaceX’s Revenue, with Jack Kuhr (Research Director at Payload)

Inside SpaceX’s Revenue, with Jack Kuhr (Research Director at Payload)

This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Jack Kuhr, Research Director at Payload, for a deep dive into one of the most closely watched companies in the space industry—SpaceX. We…

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Space to Grow, with Matt Weinzierl and Brendan Rosseau

Space to Grow, with Matt Weinzierl and Brendan Rosseau

This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Matt Weinzierl, Chair of the MBA Program and Professor at Harvard Business School, and Brendan Rosseau, a member of the strategy team for…

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